Audio Series

Audio Series

In 2011 in Tel Aviv relational psychoanalyst Dr Jessica Benjamin sat down with physicist Dr Martin Land and entered into a wide ranging discussion about the complex range of human interactions, emotions and personal processes that the film’s protagonists Itamar (Israeli) and Bassam (Palestinian) subjected themselves to in order to move out of denial and beyond violence.

The following audio clips are excerpts from that conversation.

 

Pain and Empathy
Leadership - Compassion and Attachment
Helplessness, impact and agency
Non violent agency and recognition
Resisting revenge
Sacrifice and children
Liberation from collective identity
Ubuntu
Sacrifice, blood and perpetrator identity 
Its not good to die for your country
Stepping out of victimhood
Dissociation
Rejecting the collective ideology
Violence and liberation movements
Phallic zionism - Overcoming humiliation
The enemy and common humanity
Perpetrator identity
Masculinity and humiliation
Self states and the depressive position
Trauma past and present
The moral third, lawfulness and humanity
Witness and failed witness
Parental recognition
Resilience
Transgression and leadership
Transgression and the moral third
The moral third, secure base and agency
Expectable patterns
Fundamentalism and democracy
Domination or submission
Rupture and repair
Betrayal by ideology
The magnetic chain of humanity
Creating a group identity
Group identity - Renouncing violence
Dialogue and rehumanising
In Conclusion

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